was happening already going into the debate but there's no question that it gave romney a lot more energy. it's not unprecedented for an incumbent president to lose a debate. people were watching this and romney performed very well. if he can capitalize on the second look there's a lot he can do in terms of selling policies and arguing against the president. however many undecided voters are left will break one way or the other and that's why these debates so important. >> if the debate gave romney the much needed shot in the arm, the president has to be happy with friday's jobs report, the unemployment rate down 8.1% to 7.8%, now the lowest since the president took office. does that help the president at this point or is the economy baked into this election? >> both things are probably true. the point that you made about the lowest level since he took office, that's important. we're already seeing in polling are more optimism among voters about the economy. that all is to the president's benefit but a very weak rae covery. 114,000 jobs is not very robust at all. you still have a very hig